tag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:/discussions/suggestions/2074-possible-bugThe Mental Faculty: Discussion 2016-08-11T02:43:46Ztag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-01T07:12:32Z2012-09-01T07:12:32ZPossible bug<div><p>Moving notes to another stack restarts the scheduling. That's
because each stack can have a different scheduler, and they are
usually incompatible with each other.</p>
<p>Note that moving a note to a new stack should not affect its
template, and whether it is reversible. The stack template is only
used for making new notes.</p>
<p>To make reversible notes irreversible, best to select the notes,
and use the Apply Template menu. You don't need to move them at
all.</p>
<p>Any changes you make may not update on the iPhone until the next
sync.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-02T01:18:40Z2012-09-02T01:18:40ZPossible bug<div><p>I create my notes on Google Docs, import them to Flashcard
Exchange, and from there import from Flashcard Exchange to Mental
Case. i typically will then set the template on Mental Case for the
imported stack to "Reversible Notes". Suppose I want a particular
card in that stack to be an exception to the template and be
non-reversible. Can I accomplish this override of the stack's
template by unchecking the "Facet can be used as a prompt or
question" box on the appropriate facet of that particular card?</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-02T07:43:18Z2012-09-02T07:43:18ZPossible bug<div><p>Yes. Every note is separate, and can be configured how you
like.</p>
<p>The templates are just a convenient way to set defaults and make
batch changes. After they are applied, they are not related to the
notes anymore.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-03T16:11:37Z2012-09-03T16:11:37ZPossible bug<div><p>thanks, this is very helpful information. I think can still
confirm a bug, however (or otherwise, perhaps you might term it a
"glitch" for this one card.) I have a card that was originally
imported from Version 1.9 into a stack on Version 2 designated as
"Reversible Note." In Version 1.9, the card was in a stack of
"reversible" cards, while it was made an exception by virtue of
having it's "non-reversible" box checked. In Version 2, it did a
good job of making the transition by virtue of its "Facet can be
used as a prompt or question" box being unchecked for the
"Response" labeled second facet (of a two facet card.) The "Prompt"
labeled facet properly had this box checked. So by all accounts it
should be set so that the second facet does not appear as a
prompt.</p>
<p>When I moved this card to another stack, the "Response" facet
did, however, appear as a prompt. This was using the "Study All Due
Notes" method on the most recent iPod release. I set all the
scheduling via the desktop Version 2 and sync with the iPod daily.
For what it's worth facets have the "Show in slideshows" box
checked and have the Multiple Choice selection set to "True." Oh,
and the "Schedule each response separately is unchecked" (since it
is my understanding that on two faceted cards each response is
scheduled separately by default whether the box is checked or not,
and since this is to be a non-reversible note anyhow.)</p>
<p>I had moved the card out of its original stack into a new stack
with a custom template I had created that would make new cards in
it non-reversible. But after learning that a card can be set to
non-reversible regardless of the template of the stack in which it
was created, and that moving the cards does not change the set up
of a card in terms of its reversibility, I moved it back to the
original stack.</p>
<p>Perhaps the bug is that it is ignoring the non-reversibility of
the card when the scheduling is reset (ie, due to the initial
import from Version 1.9, the move to the new stack, and the move
back to the new stack.) If this is the case, now that I have it in
its final resting place so to speak, back in its original stack, I
will see if it continues to use the Response card as a prompt
(question) in future scheduling or whether it corrects this.</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-03T16:58:56Z2012-09-03T16:58:56ZPossible bug<div><p>OK, thanks for reporting it. Might be difficult to isolate, but
we'll try.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-09-04T03:44:46Z2012-09-04T03:44:46ZPossible bug<div><p>For what it's worth, it did (possibly) correct itself on my most
recent sync by showing the correct prompt this time. I'll have to
wait and see if this is actually a case of it correcting itself or
just coincidence that it used the correct facet as a prompt this
time with it still scheduling the other facet as a prompt somewhere
down the road.</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-10T01:00:20Z2012-10-10T01:00:20ZPossible bug<div><p>To get back with you on this, I can confirm this problem is not
just happening with cases that I imported from Version 1. New card
sets that I created on Flashcard Exchange and imported to the IPod
app and then moved to the desktop via a sync are also exhibiting
this problem. The cases default to the "Reversible" template after
loading to the desktop app (after the initial sync from the iPod
Touch. I can't remember if this default is something I chose in a
preference option somewhere, or if that is the program's default.
Anyway, as I stated before, after they are loaded on the desktop
this way, I go into particular cards in the set that I do not want
to be reversible and uncheck the "Facet can be used as a prompt or
question" box of the response facet. But this does not end up
working, particularly on the first round of scheduling. Some older
cards that came due for scheduling today gave the response facet as
the prompt today, even the cards are set to be non-reversible.</p>
<p>I always schedule on the desktop but study on the iPod after
loading the scheduled cards with a sync. I sync daily. Maybe I'll
try studying a round on the desktop one day and see if it happens
there as well.</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-10T06:40:27Z2012-10-10T06:40:27ZPossible bug<div><p>Ah, I think I know what is happening. The data model used on the
iOS app is older and not as flexible as the one currently on the
Mac. The iOS model requires that all notes in a case have the same
reversibility option, which you set in the case settings.</p>
<p>So you are quite right: If you have a reversible stack on the
Mac, and make one note non-reversible, it will show up on iOS as
reversible. Sorry I didn't pick up on this sooner.</p>
<p>The good news is that we are currently working on a major
upgrade for iOS, and this will bring the same data models to the
Mac and iOS apps. Both apps will handle reversibility the same, and
will even be capable of scheduling study separately.</p>
<p>Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for reporting the
issue.<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-13T16:54:39Z2012-10-13T16:55:52ZPossible bug<div><p>I'm not sure what you mean when you say "scheduling study
separately."</p>
<p>Currently, If I set scheduling on the mac and sync to the iPod
and study the notes on the iPod, when I sync back to the mac after
studying them, are the results of success or failure for a card
translated back to the mac specific for each facet (used as a
prompt) of that card?</p>
<p>And vice-versa, is the independent scheduling of each facet of a
card as a prompt transferred to the iPod when it gives the prompt
for a scheduled card? Or is the iPod still presenting the prompt
for a scheduled card randomly, regardless of which facet the mac
has scheduled (ie, the mac scheduled side "b" as a prompt of a
reversible note, but the ipod only recognizes that the note is
scheduled and may give either side "a" or side "b" as a prompt in
random fashion)?</p>
<p>Or perhaps by "scheduling study separately" are you just
indicating that the iPod and mac can maintain independent study
schedules even while using the sync to load card sets?</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-14T08:22:13Z2012-10-14T08:22:13ZPossible bug<div><p>We introduced some changes a little while ago which means that
the iPod should indeed handle the correct prompt, rather than
choosing one randomly, and the correct schedule update should
happen on the Mac.</p>
<p>What i mean by schedule separately is that you will get all the
same algorithms on the iPod as the Mac, and if you don't sync for a
week, each device will keep scheduling. When they do sync up, they
reconcile the differences, and you can continue.</p>
<p>At the moment, the iPod is a slave to the Mac. The Mac does all
scheduling, and if you don't sync, you don't get any new due notes.
With the new system, the iPod would keep scheduling notes, even if
it couldn't sync with the Mac.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-14T17:21:51Z2012-10-14T17:21:51ZPossible bug<div><p>Ok, thanks. Letting the iMac do the scheduling and syncing to
the iPod to load the schedule is not a big deal for me.</p>
<p>So if I understand correctly, in my case, since I do my studying
on the iPod, the work around is to my original problem is to not
include any "non-reversible" cards in a "reversible note" stack,
since the exception to those cards will not translate in the sync
between the mac and the ipod. Instead, I need to keep any
non-reversible notes I want in a separate "question and answer"
stack. Any target date on the upgrade that fixes this (ie, year
end?)</p>
<p>Thanks</p></div>zeppotag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-14T17:26:29Z2012-10-14T17:26:29ZPossible bug<div><p>Yes. Try not to mix the two types in one case is probably best
for now.</p>
<p>Can't give definite dates for release. That's a bad idea in
software. But it should be months, not years.</p>
<p>Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-25T18:33:18Z2012-10-25T18:33:18ZPossible bug<div><p>I have a set that keep reversing despite being set to not
reverse. I've backed out from stack to case to case and nowhere do
I have it set to reverse. I only use an iPad.</p></div>robin.thebridgestag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-25T18:41:51Z2012-10-25T18:41:51ZPossible bug<div><p>So if you go into the stack settings, the reverse settings are
turned off? And you have never synced with a Mac?<br>
I'm not sure what the problem could be. We will do some
testing.<br>
Can you tell me exactly how you are starting the slideshow? Are you
studying the lesson notes. Which buttons do you tap, and what are
the switches in the study settings set to?<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormacktag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-25T18:53:18Z2012-10-25T18:53:18ZPossible bug<div><p>Here's how I have it set up Library -> Luke -> Essentials
-> Mastery Charts and every stack/case is set for "Reverse
Slides: off." I'm starting the slideshow by clicking down to
Mastery Charts -> Study Slideshow -> Study Due Notes in
Case.</p>
<p>I don't have a Mac, so I've never synced with anything.<br>
Thanks,<br>
Robin</p></div>robin.thebridgestag:mentalfaculty.tenderapp.com,2010-10-19:Comment/184067962012-10-25T19:12:43Z2012-10-25T19:12:43ZPossible bug<div><p>Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing: to turn
off the reversibility, you need to click the Library. Then tap
Edit, and then tap on the blue button of the case. In there, "Notes
are reversible" should be turned off.<br>
Is that what you did?<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Drew</p></div>drewmccormack