Studies os X reformats smart stack rules

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Peter Narkis

02 May, 2016 03:02 PM

Hi,

since upgrading to the latest version on mac os X, Studies reformatted all my smart stack rules, so I have to manually reedit all of them ...
Any way to apply the rules in a batch mode? Please correct this bug in the next release ...

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by drewmccormack on 03 May, 2016 11:52 AM

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    Hmm, that is weird. Was it ALL of them, or just some? Did the rules get completely removed, or just one part changed (eg stack name or something)?

    Drew

  2. 2 Posted by Peter Narkis on 03 May, 2016 01:32 PM

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    They're all changed and all in the same way. The original settings are in the first pic I uploaded. All the smart stacks' settings have been changed according to the second pic.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by drewmccormack on 04 May, 2016 09:37 AM

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    They all changed to the 'default' rule. This rule is used when for some reason the original stack rules can't be loaded due to data corruption. Rather than crashing, it resets the rule.

    Hmm, difficult to know why this would have happened. If you notice anything about how it happens, please let me know.

    Were those stacks being synced?

    It looks like you are just using smart stacks to collect together multiple stacks. A better approach may be to use a Group. But an even better way may be for us to add a new type of stack, which is like aliases to notes. The original notes stay in their stacks, but you can make a new 'list' of any notes from any stacks.

    Drew

  4. 4 Posted by peter narkis on 04 May, 2016 11:18 AM

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    Were those stacks being synced?
    => nops

    It looks like you are just using smart stacks to collect together multiple stacks. A better approach may be to use a Group.
    => I do, when I want to list certain individual stacks together under the same "header".

    But an even better way may be for us to add a new type of stack, which is like aliases to notes. The original notes stay in their stacks, but you can make a new 'list' of any notes from any stacks.
    => well, isn't this the rationale behind the smart stacks anyway? That's at least how I use them : combining the new vocabulary session with the previous one for a shuffled studying session. If this could be extended to individual notes, extending the "alias" rationale to that level, why not?

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by drewmccormack on 04 May, 2016 12:53 PM

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    Smart stacks are like saved searches. They update automatically.

    What I had in mind was like a stack, where you drag in notes and reorder them. The only difference is that they don't own the notes. They all come from other stacks.

    Kind regards,
    Drew

  6. 6 Posted by Peter Narkis on 25 Jul, 2016 11:27 AM

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    unable to post follow-up.
    I'm getting

    Your comment was posted successfully. You may have to wait a few moments while your comment is being moderated.

    but nothing happens...

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by drewmccormack on 25 Jul, 2016 11:59 PM

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    Must be an issue on the tender.com servers. Will probably work after waiting a bit.

    Kind regards,
    Drew

  8. 8 Posted by istudies on 26 Jul, 2016 11:55 AM

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    impossible to post a reply, even hosting screenshots elsewhere ...

  9. Support Staff 9 Posted by drewmccormack on 26 Jul, 2016 11:54 PM

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    And it doesn’t work if you go to their web site and enter a reply there? (There is a link in your emails at the bottom)

    Drew

  10. 10 Posted by istudies on 27 Jul, 2016 06:23 AM

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    well, I'm just uploading the images there, it's an image hosting site, that's what it does.
    The server here apparently neither lets me upload the images nor post the reply. That's why I had to create a new user name and make a new post...

  11. 11 Posted by istudies on 27 Jul, 2016 02:10 PM

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    ok, I'm having a follow-up on this one.

    First of all, my old smart stacks have all be transformed to normal stacks, deleting the rules [screenshot 1 : everything above the LEVEL 2 up to stack 144].

    Secondly, all my new smart stacks, after having reformatted them manually, still have the smart stack icon in the sidebar, but the rules are erased AGAIN and reset to default.
    [screenshot 2]

    Thirdly, when I try to create a new smart stack, I don't have the same rule options anymore, especially the one I used to have "stack - matches - "number", which means I can't use smart stacks anymore. [screenshot 3]

    I very much like this app, but I have to admit this continuously having to reformat my rules are becoming a bit of a pain…

    => Maybe's there's a way to export separately the rules of the smart stacks, so I can reapply them when something goes wrong. I have the impression that it occurs when there's an update for the program, but I'm not sure...

  12. Support Staff 12 Posted by drewmccormack on 28 Jul, 2016 12:01 AM

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    OK, I have tracked down this issue now.

    What happened was that we originally mistakenly kept the rules for stack name, but they didn’t work. That is what you originally saw.

    In the last update, we realized those rules were not working, and removed that stack title rule option. That is why you can’t create new stacks with that rule.

    We will look at reintroducing that rule again. The reason it had to be removed was for differences in how Mental Case and Studies handle notes in stacks. It should be possible to reintroduce it.

    Sorry for the inconvenience. This should only affect stacks where you have a ‘stack title’ rule. If you don’t use that type of rule, the smart stacks should work fine.

    Kind regards,
    Drew

  13. 13 Posted by istudies on 28 Jul, 2016 06:03 AM

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    Sorry for the inconvenience. This should only affect stacks where you have a ‘stack title’ rule. If you don’t use that type of rule, the smart stacks should work fine.

    => As it happens, that's the only "smart rule" i'm using, and on a daily basis... So I would greatly appreciate this being reintroducing in a not too far in the future bug update... Thanks.

  14. Support Staff 14 Posted by drewmccormack on 28 Jul, 2016 07:00 AM

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    Yes, we will try to add this back as soon as we can.

    Your usage is quite unusual. I haven't seen stacks named like that before, or the type of smart stack rules you are using (most will use groups instead).

    Also didn't have anyone else report the issue, so I think even though it is important to your usage, it is not a very common usage.

    Anyway, we will add back the option in a bug release.

    Kind regards,
    Drew

  15. 15 Posted by istudies on 28 Jul, 2016 08:16 AM

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    Hi Drew,

    thanks for putting that back in.
    I don't know whether my usage is uncommon. I mean, I use both : I use groups and subgroups in order to group together big entities, stacks for individual lessons (that are the numbered files) and smart groups when I want to study the flashcard of one, two, three or more manually selected lessons.
    How could I do this otherwise?

  16. Support Staff 16 Posted by drewmccormack on 28 Jul, 2016 09:56 AM

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    I think you are controlling the slideshows much more than most people. Usually you would just set a study schedule for each stack and study what becomes due.

    But it doesn't matter. We should be able to get this back in reasonably soon.

    Kind regards,
    Drew

  17. 17 Posted by istudies on 18 Aug, 2016 11:14 AM

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    Hi,
    although it had been stated this issue would be resolved in the next bug release, having downloaded the latest version, I see it still remains as it was. There is no more option "stack matches".
    This is very annoying...

  18. Support Staff 18 Posted by drewmccormack on 19 Aug, 2016 12:09 AM

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    We will be getting to this. The last bug fix was an emergency fix for sync, with no other changes.

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