Bring back note totals please!

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17 May, 2016 10:33 PM

Hi there,

I have been a longtime mental case user and just switched to studies. Can you please make sure to bring back the feature of seeing total number of cards in each stack and case (as well as grand total). This is important for me to ensure my large library has properly synced.

This information is less prominent on studies for mac. This information looks like it has disappeared from studies on ios.


  1. 1 Posted by zeppo on 18 May, 2016 03:20 AM

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    I have to agree with Simeon on this one. It would be helpful. I know you can get the total number of notes in a stack when you open it and scroll to the top, but this would be a pain to do for each and every stack when trying to track down where a sync went wrong.

  2. Support Staff 2 Posted by drewmccormack on 18 May, 2016 07:21 PM

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    Thanks for the feedback. We will consider it.

    The reason for removing the totals was:

    1. They slow the app down quite a bit.
    2. They clutter up the interface quite a bit with relatively unimportant info. Ie, you can still get the info if you need it, but I think a lot of people probably don't want it there all the time on all the stacks.

    But we appreciate the feedback. We will think about whether to bring it back, or perhaps offer something that addresses the problem in some other way.

    Kind regards,

  3. drewmccormack closed this discussion on 18 May, 2016 07:21 PM.

  4. Simeon Mitchell re-opened this discussion on 19 May, 2016 01:31 AM

  5. 3 Posted by Simeon Mitchell on 19 May, 2016 01:31 AM

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    Thanks Drew appreciate it.

    At least a grand total on the ios app would be greatly appreciated.


  6. Support Staff 4 Posted by drewmccormack on 19 May, 2016 05:49 AM

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    Grand total is on iOS too, but a little hidden. If you select a stack, and then drag down to reveal the filter bar, there should also be a note count there.

    Kind regards,

  7. 5 Posted by Simeon Mitchell on 19 May, 2016 03:05 PM

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    Thanks Drew. This seems to work for stacks but not cases. Slightly
    unfortunate but still good to know.


  8. drewmccormack closed this discussion on 20 May, 2016 06:14 AM.

  9. zeppo re-opened this discussion on 20 May, 2016 02:52 PM

  10. 6 Posted by zeppo on 20 May, 2016 02:52 PM

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    I have to reiterate my own concern about this as I prepare for syncing my data on iOS with the desktop app. This information is not relatively unimportant, as you state, but in fact is critical. Now with the current design, in order to make sure a completed sync is not flawed, you would have to go into each and every stack, scroll to the top, note the totals at the top and sum them all up to come up with the total number of notes in that app, and then do the same for the other app, to make sure the totals match.

    Also, I notice on the desktop Studies app (from where I had loaded a stack to play around with prior to your iOS release) that you have the total number of cards due printed to the right of both "All Notes" and "Due for Study", whereas on the iOS app, the space to the right of "All Notes " is blank. The desktop app is providing duplicate information to the right of "All Notes". You could instead put the total number of cards to the right of this, due or not due, regardless of schedule, without causing any clutter (although I never found this to be a problem in the least on Mental Case 2).

    Again, I consider this critical, regardless of how well you think the apps sync now. That could easily change with a future bug, not to mention just the problems that can come simply because of some error with apple's iCloud or a bad connection, etc. For now, I guess I will have to sync and go through this process to make sure everything transferred and then use the desktop app to combine everything into a minimal number of stacks, relying instead on smart stacks and/or tags to organize. But I implore you to make it a priority to add a grand total of due and undue notes to the right of "All Notes".

  11. Support Staff 7 Posted by drewmccormack on 20 May, 2016 03:27 PM

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    I’m afraid I disagree, in the sense that you are only using this to see if the sync is complete. That is not really a good reason to have note totals, especially since they are quite expensive to generate. It would be better if we had a way to indicate that sync is done, or that you simply trusted the sync to work.

    There may well be good reasons to have the note total, but I am not convinced that ‘tracking sync progress’ is really a good one.

    Yes, there is a little redundancy in the All Notes. We could indeed put a total there. We might consider that. We would of course have to change its appearance so that it wasn’t the same as the due notes, because it would get confusing, but that might be a good alternative. Putting counts on all stacks clutters the UI too much for the benefit I think you get from it, and is expensive to calculate.

    I will look to add a total count on All Notes, which should satisfy the sync need without too much clutter of expensive calculation.


  12. drewmccormack closed this discussion on 20 May, 2016 03:28 PM.

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